Pipe Dream Kyrie and Rocket Melo

Pipe Dream Kyrie & Rocket Melo

by Patrick Diaz @p_diazNY

What can the Knicks offer in their pursuit of Kyrie Irving? Truth is not much. In what seems more and more like a pipe dream since the news broke, the Knicks won’t include Kristaps Porzingis in any deals. The Cavs don’t seem interested in any offer that doesn’t include Porzingis, they’re looking for a Carmelo type haul like the Denver Nuggets got from New York in 2011.

Another factor making a Kyrie to New York deal highly unlikely is that Carmelo Anthony has no interest in playing for the Cavs which means no trade. If Carmelo Anthony was going to the Cavaliers it’s likely it would’ve happened already, the influence of his pal LeBron James would’ve helped make it happen. Carmelo has his heart set on joining his other pal, Chris Paul, in Houston who can’t offer the Knicks suitable enough compensation. Carmelo not considering Cleveland is a little puzzling since he’s almost guaranteed a trip to the NBA Finals for the first time in his career alongside LeBron. It appears Carmelo seems to be concerned with the money
left on the remaining 2 years of his 5-year deal; he’s guaranteed 54 million dollars. In a possible scenario he can waive his no trade clause, play one year in Cleveland with LeBron and quite possibly reach the Finals after he can opt out and join Houston that summer but he would forfeit the remaining 27.9 million on his deal. Carmelo wants to get paid before anything else, plain and simple. He stated before careers shouldn’t be defined by championships. While his addition to the Rockets makes them formidable they are far from the favorite in an ultra-competitive western conference that includes the reigning champion Warriors. The Cavs are asking for an impact veteran, a blue chip player and multiple picks, talks are slow.

As the Knicks continue to weigh their options it’s worth noting that GM Scott Perry has added 5 new executives to the front office to be part of his regime since he was hired in July. The Knicks haven’t had an All-Star point guard start for them since Brooklyn’s very own Mark Jackson all the way back in 1989 before him, Michael “Sugar” Ray Richardson was selected to the All-Star team from 1980-82, you have to go even further back then to get to the iconic Walt “Clyde” Frazier who was an All-Star from 1970-76. Considering the Knicks have had 3 All-Star point guards in almost 50 years in a city that is known to be a hot bed for point guard talent, Kyrie to New York makes a lot of sense, by some miracle New York is one of his top destinations. It helps that Kyrie is a local kid himself growing up in New Jersey, his father being from the Bronx and his godfather is Rod Strickland a former Knicks point guard who is
also a Bronx Native. Super teams in NBA are going to be a trend for the foreseeable future. A Porzingis/Irving foundation points the Knicks in that direction and they should be able to attract top tier talent if there is a union. The Knicks may have to mortgage their future first round picks in whatever unlikely agreement may come for Kyrie. He is what teams hope future first round picks become, a perennial All-Star, a champion with 3 straight trips to the Finals and one of the elite talents in the NBA. It’s an impressive resume for someone yet to enter his prime at only 25 years of age.

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Due to Scheduling Miscommunication Knicks Accidentally Thought They Had the Night Off

  • I think our listener Niro put it best when he said “There were two games this season that just disgusted me. The Houston game and the Houston game.”
  • I understand the Knicks were without Melo, Sheed, Shumpert, Amare and Camby, but they weren’t scheduled to be without Defense, good shooting, controlling the pace and taking care of the ball too.
  • There is a lot of talk about Lin and Harden not being able to play together, but they combined for 394,402,134 points on 97% shooting tonight (approximately) so maybe we shouldn’t jump to conclusions.
  • At least Chandler Parsons didn’t light the Knicks up again.
  • Copeland got 9 quick points to start the 3rd quarter and for a second I thought the Knicks were going to make a comeback, but then the Knicks decided it would be a good idea to let Harden shoot open 3’s the rest of the night.
  • I started this recap 5 minutes ago when the Knicks were down by 20 and they are now down by 27.
  • JR, I love when you go to bed early and have a great shooting game the next day, but can you try and make that happen in a game where you’re good shooting would actually make a difference?
  • I’m really glad the Knicks don’t have to play Houston again for at least 11 more months.
  • 10-1 at home is still really darn good.
  • Another positive is we can start to prepare for Copesanity.  He had a career high 29 points on 11-19 shooting.

Episode 137: Houston is Still Going to Suck

Lin is Gone, Felton and the class of 2002 are in.  We talk about the Knicks moves, and their non-moves.  We talk about the Knicks top 5 worst moves ever, think of ways to get Dolan to lose his ownership and talk about the coming season.  Download Episode 137

Episode 101: Who We’re NOT Getting

We talk about the Houston, Detroit and Chicago games.  Listener emails.  Our new contest.  We go over the free agents we are rumored to be trying to get and explain why it isn’t happening.  We also talk about the rumor that D’Antoni might be fired before the Super Bowl.  Download Episode 101

Episode 30: The Streak Continues

On the bright side, Jay predicted the outcomes of all three games against the Houston Rockets, San Antonio Spurs, and Oklahoma City Thunder this week.  Unfortunately he predicted all losses.  We summarize the very poor weeks the Knicks had and then lighten the mood with a fun interview with Justin from KnicksGM.com 

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Offseason Grades – Western Conference

Northwest Division

Jays Picks

Minnesota Timberwolves – B+
Utah Jazz – B
Oklahoma City – B-
Portland Trailblazers – D-
Denver Nuggets – C+

Marc Picks

Minnesota Timberwolves – INC
Utah Jazz – B+
Oklahoma City – C
Portland Trailblazers – D
Denver Nuggets – F

Pacific Division

Jays Picks

Los Angeles Clippers – D-
Sacramento Kings – C
Golden State Warriors – C-
Los Angeles Lakers – A+
Phoenix Suns – B-

Marc Picks

Los Angeles Clippers – F
Sacramento Kings – C+
Golden State Warriors – B-
Los Angeles Lakers – A
Phoenix Suns – B

Southwest Division

Jays Picks

Memphis Grizzlies – C-
Houston Rockets – C+
San Antonio Spurs – B-
Dallas Mavericks – A-
New Orleans Hornets – F

Marc Picks

Memphis Grizzlies – B-
Houston Rockets – C
San Antonio Spurs – A
Dallas Mavericks – F
New Orleans Hornets – F