Episode 503: Tom Thibodeau

Marc and Jay talk about the Knicks newest coach, Tom Thibodeau and give their thoughts on the hire, how it will effect the roster, development, defense, and culture

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What Are the Odds the Knicks Make the Playoffs Under Thibodeau?

The Knicks have officially hired Tom Thibodeau as their head coach. He got a 5 year deal, but this is the Knicks so lets be realistic and say he’ll be coach for at least the next two years. The Knicks will also most likely be getting Mike Woodson as their assistant coach. He happened to be the coach the last time the Knicks made the playoffs. That got me thinking, what are the odds the Knicks make the playoffs under Tom Thibodeau?

First lets take a look at what happened last year. The Knicks entered the 2019-20 season with +575 odds, on average, to reach the postseason. They finished the abbreviated regular season with the fourth-worst point differential in the league and the lowest ELO rating at FiveThirtyEight.  There is every reason to expect NY’s odds to make the 2021 playoffs to open at roughly the same number, i.e. in the +550 to +600 range. That would mean oddsmakers are giving them about a 12-15% chance. Once the current season ends in a few months, there should be early odds available for next season. The NBA section at Sports Betting Dime should have updated content by then so you’ll be able to check on the 2020-21 season.

Of course those odds were with Hornacek as coach and the Knicks now have a real actual basketball coaching staff. Now that the Knicks have the coach settled it’s time to look at the roster. It looks like Payton and Portis are gone. Payton was the Knicks best (only?) point guard last season. This means the Knicks point guard rotation will probably look something like whatever rookie they draft, Smith Jr., and Frank. Unless that draft pick is immediately good this can get messy. Of course the Knicks will have a ton of cap space if they don’t pick up a few team options but there doesn’t seem to be a quick fix on the market currently.

For arguments sake lets say everything works out, the draft pick is great, Frank, Knox, and Robinson all take a leap, and they find a free agent that makes them a little better. The next question is; is there room for the Knicks in the playoff picture? Milwaukee, Toronto, Boston, Philly, Miami and Indiana are virtual locks, and the Nets will most likely be there too. That means the Knicks would have to pass Charlotte, Washington, Orlando, and Chicago while staying ahead of Detroit and Atlanta who both will probably be better than last season.  A lot can change between now and December but as of now I’d say a 12-15% chance at making the playoffs seems a little high.

Episode 502: Top Ten Worst Moves

Marc and Jay come up with their top 10 worst moves the Knicks have made since the show started and then answer listener questions

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Episode 501: Coaching Hunt, Summer League, and Roster Changes

Marc and Jay talk about:
The 8 team summer league
The new Knicks signings
LeBrons 2010 decision
Some more Knicks news
Listener emails

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Episode 500: The NBA is Back

Marc and Jay talk about the return of the NBA (minus the Knicks), the head coach candidates, what the 8 uninvited teams will do, and how the new schedule will effect next season

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Episode 499: Some New Hires

Marc and Jay talk about the Knicks new hires, look at some free agents, talk about the Knicks of the 90’s, and a bunch of other topics

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Episode 498: Checking In

Marc and Jay check in, talk about 5 things they’d like to see the Knicks do immediately, thoughts on where the season ended up, and a few around the league topics

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Episode 497: Hiatus

Marc and Jay talk about what might have been the last week of the NBA season, Franks coming out game and back to earth game, the OT win against the Hawks and draft implications, who we want to come back next season, and free agents to keep an eye on

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Episode 496: Catching up with the Knicks Rewind Podcast

Marc and Jay team up with the Knicks Rewind podcast to talk about the Atkinson firing, thoughts on Leon Rose, the Chris Paul rumors, Top coaching options for next year?, Spike Lee Drama, and more

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Episode 495: Mid-Season Grades

Marc and Jay talk about the last two games, we give grades for everyone on the roster, talk about the Thibs rumors, and more

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