Marc and Jay talk about the last 3 games, Cleanthony Early, 10 day contracts begin, trade rumors, and more
|Pretty crappy week overall. 0-3 and somehow the closest game was the game against Cleveland sans Melo. Hopefully the Knicks new years resolution is to not look terrible.|
|Rank||Player||Comments||Last weeks Rank|
|1||Anthony, Carmelo||Melo only played in 2 of the 3 games this week, but the games he did play in he looked like a star yet again. Hopefully the last 10 games is the Melo we’ll get most of the season and not the Melo from the first 15-20 games.||1|
|2||Porzingis, Kristaps||Yes, he had a stinker vs Atlanta, but looked good in the other two games. His shot is going to start to fall soon and then he’s going to be unstoppable.||6|
|3||Thomas, Lance||I can’t believe Lance Thomas turned into our best bench player. The Knicks still have a 2019 2nd rounder coming from Cleveland. That Shumpert and JR trade looks better every day.||2|
|4||Lopez, Robin||Maybe getting owned by Vucevic knocked some sense into Robin, as he looked much better this week.||8|
|5||Afflalo, Arron||Arron cooled down a ton since last week, which is a big contributor to the Knicks problems with winning basketball games. Continue reading|
Marc and Jay talk about the last 3 games, some sort of ghost of christmas past bit, stats guy the third is back, free agents, potential moves, much more
Marc and Jay talk about 4 games, get lots of calls from the likes of lance thomas, derrick rose and more, we talk about coaching, rotations, the backcourt, and much more, enjoy!
|The Knicks go 3-1 this week. In keeping with their trend, no more than 2 or 3 guys are allowed to play really well in any single game. Fortunately for the Knicks 1 of those guys has been Melo all week, and when Melo plays really well the Knicks have a great chance at winning.|
|Rank||Player||Comments||Last weeks Rank|
|1||Anthony, Carmelo||This was an easy call. Melo shot lights out against the Magic and Bulls. He didn’t have a great shooting night against the Wolves, but had a season high in assists, 1 shy of a triple double. The Knicks look like a playoff team when Melo is firing on all cylindars.||1|
|2||Thomas, Lance||What insane world are we living in where Lance Thomas has been the Knicks 2nd best player AND the Knicks won most of the games? I’m finally convinced, sorry for all the hate Lance. I’ll add my newly found surplus of hate to the Vujacic section.||4|
|3||Afflalo, Arron||Until the dud against the Magic Arron has been a legit 2nd scoring option next to Melo. It says a lot that the one game this week he couldn’t get it going was the 1 game the Knicks lost.||2|
|4||O’Quinn, Kyle||The basketball gods giveth and the basketball gods taketh away. O’Quinn was becoming a really key part of the bench until he was held out of the Magic game with an undesclosed ankle injury. When the Knicks don’t disclose an injury it usually means something bad. Kyle is probably getting his foot amputated.||3|
|5||Galloway, Langston||Looks like Galloway is slowly coming out of his slump, giving the backcourt some much needed support. And the better Langston plays, the less we have to see of Sasha. Continue reading|
|An up a down week. There was the Utah game where the Knicks got spanked, the Kings game that the Knicks should have won, and the Portland game where they finally did win. A lot of shake ups in the rankings this week as Porzingis terrible week gets him dethroned, and O’Quinn gets out of the doghouse and shoots up the standings.|
|Rank||Player||Comments||Last weeks Rank|
|1||Anthony, Carmelo||Yeah he was bad in Utah, but who wasn’t. Melo was crazy good in Portland with arguably his best outing of the season. Lets hope we see more games like that.||3|
|2||Afflalo, Arron||It’s nice having another scoring option, Afflalo hasn’t been amazing, but he’s been fairly reliable and consistent, something no one else on the team currently has.||2|
|3||O’Quinn, Kyle||I don’t know what to make of this, KOQ had a great week, grabbed a ton of boards, and even had a 7-8 night against Portland. Why does Fisher bench him for weeks at a time?||13|
|4||Thomas, Lance||Never thought I’d ever put Thomas this high. Does this count as my apology?||7|
|5||Vujacic, Sasha||This is like the bizarro standings. I still think we’d be better off if Sasha were in a suit, but I can’t deny how good he was this week. Sasha almost led a comeback in Utah after a no show by the starters. Continue reading|
Marc, Jay, and stats guy talk about the last 4 games, whether it is OK to criticize players, how Fisher is doing as a coach, debate whether we think a change is needed to the starting lineup, and much more
|The Knicks went 2-2 this week, beating 2 absolutely terrible teams, and losing to 2 decent teams. Although the Bucks aren’t nearly as good as the Knicks made them look. Fisher seems to finally be getting the rotation down to 10 guys which makes my life easier.|
|Rank||Player||Comments||Last weeks Rank|
|1||Porzingis, Kristaps||Porzingis was the best player on the Knicks for 3 of the 4 games this week. If only we had a max level super star to help him out.||1|
|2||Afflalo, Arron||His 3 point shot hasn’t been there, but he’s shooting well from everywhere else on the court, rebounding, and playing defense. I’ll take it.||2|
|3||Anthony, Carmelo||Melo did have a season high in assists (8) against the Mavs, but he’s been shooting 33% for too often to even consider moving him higher on this list.||3|
|4||Calderon, Jose||Look who’s back from the dead! I almost forgot what it’s like having a PG do point guardy things.||5|
|5||Seraphin, Kevin||Seraphin asked Fisher how he could get more playing time and Fisher said play better defense. Since then Seraphin has been the most consistant player on the Knicks bench. Continue reading|
Marc and Jay talk about the last 3 games, Melo trade scenarios, Phillys tanking strategy, LeBron needs more help, and lots more
3 Realistic Trades for Carmelo Anthony: the future of the New York Knicks
Talking about trades for Carmelo Anthony is all the rage now that we have a blue-chip prospect in Kristaps Porzingis, but finding the right fit is more difficult than deciphering what the hell Clyde is talking about half the time during broadcasts. The New York Knicks have been pretty much synonymous with dysfunction and disappointment over the better part of this century. From trading away valuable draft picks for the worst Italian since Mussolini to signing clinically obese, immobile big men to multi-year, cap-destroying deals, this team has had little to be excited about for a long time. The Knicks are a hapless collection of oxymorons– a big market team in a center of world culture that nobody wants to play in, a team with a huge payroll and minuscule win total, a team that plays in the “Mecca of basketball” but usually loses to whichever team makes a pilgrimage there– so it’s only fitting that the one time in the past two decades that they’ve had a legit superstar is also the one time when the best thing to do for the franchise is trading him.
Although the Knicks are in no shape to compete for a championship as currently constructed, some of the ingredients are in the cupboard. There’s the scoring machine that can get buckets against any defense, a budding defensive stopper with unlimited range, and some young, tough guards that can stroke it from deep. But for everything that is in stock there is something missing, and the store probably won’t be stocking it any time soon. This team has everything except enough talent and coaching to win ball games.
Right pieces. The wrong time.
Seeing as how the timelines of the team’s best pieces don’t really align( Melo being 31 and Kristael JORD-zingis merely 19), it could be that the team won’t be in contention until Mr. Anthony is too old. While he can be this generation’s Paul Pierce(a star who never had enough help to play with the big boys until late in his career), do we really want to chance that? On the other hand, the organization is finally showing some signs of sensible management and finally has a bright future, do they really want to trade the best player the team has had since Patrick Ewing while he is still in his prime?
Depending on how you look it, it might be the best thing to do. IF they strike gold in free agency, say, Nicholas Batum, Mike Conley or both and a few solid veterans, then maybe there is hope that they can go down in a blaze of glory to the Lebron James Eastern Conference Championship corporation in the conference finals, but if they strike out again, then the landscape is bleak. Melo will be going on 33 with no sign of hope coming for another year or two at least. While he is still worth something, the Knicks could do well by trading him, accumulating draft picks and growing around a new core of young players. Which brings us to:
Crafting the right trade for Melo isn’t easy. First, he has a no trade clause, but that doesn’t worry me much seeing as how the current roster would send me screaming to the nearest competitor if I were an NBA superstar on the backend of my prime. Second, we would need to get solid young players and picks. The problem here is that the teams that Melo wants to go to probably won’t give us the type of pick we are looking for. That means getting the best young player possible, accumulating some solid picks, and tanking when we have our own pick next year while letting Magic-staps John-zingis develop by having free reign to devour unsuspecting defenses with his dragon-like wings and fire breath.
Step 1) Which teams might Melo go to?
First you need a contender or a team on the brink of contention in a place that doesn’t suck (sorry Orlando, Sacramento, and Utah). Certain places like Indy and OKC might not appeal to a city boy, can overcome their prairie issues with their sheer basketball abilities in my opinion. Current NBA chainsaw, Golden State won’t be making any changes, so they’re out. That leaves us with(in no order):
Houston, Cleveland, Indiana, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, OKC, Memphis, Dallas, LAC, New Orleans, Washington and Phoenix.
Step 2) Who has something we want?
We want a nice young player(or at least not old), cap relief and picks. That is going to eliminate Cleveland, Indiana, Memphis, Dallas, and LAC right off the bat. Sorry, but they have nothing we want. Now we have Houston, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, OKC, NOP, Washington and PHX.
Step 3) Find the real suitors
Sadly, Phoenix has a bevy of nice young assets but getting Melo wouldn’t vault them into contention. Same with Washington since we’d want Bradly Beal or nothing. I’m afraid they both need to be scratched from the board. New Orleans doesn’t really have any interesting players or picks aside from Jrue Holiday, who is oft injured and might actually be too good too quickly and win us more games than we want( DAMN YOU FISHER FOR WINNING THOSE GAMES AT THE END OF LAST SEASON!), so they are gone. All of OKC’s nice picks are gone when we need them, and they don’t really have anyone young that could help us or be anything good in the future, so that leaves us with Houston, Chicago, Miami and Atlanta. But Atlanta has a good thing going, and Melo wouldn’t fit there ball movement style of play( you know? those teams that pass the ball?!?). So now we are down to 3 measly little teams that would suit Melo, the Knicks and themselves in a trade: Houston, Chicago and Miami.
The Trades for Carmelo Anthony
New York trades Carmelo Anthony, Jose Calderon and Lou Amundson
Houston trades Ty Lawson, Patrick Beverly, Corey Brewer, K.J McDaniels and Terrence Jones + a 2018 first round pick and a 2020 first round pick.
Why for New York?
The Knicks go into full rebuild mode and nab two future firsts + a very intriguing youngish player in Terrence Jones. He can hit the corner 3, run the floor, and is a great athlete. He just needs playing time and an open system. Beverly is a known quantity but a solid player that can shore up our PG defense, and with Beverly, Gallo, and Porzingis locked up long-term we will be set on that end of the floor. K.J has shown some promise at times, and could be a solid rotation player in the future. Ty Lawson is an alcoholic that would have fit in great with the Ray Felton era Knicks where they could hit the town and get arrested together, but would probably be cut by this new Knicks squad. And Corey Brewer is….from Tennessee.
Embrace the tank, go young and cheap, get some picks, and pray.
Why For Houston?
Houston has all of the elements of a contender but hasn’t put it together so far this season. Many pegged them as a the hipster pick to make the finals this season after their run last year, and with their star wing/big duo plus solid wing defenders in Beverly, Ariza, Brewer, there was no reason to think otherwise…until the season started. Melo would give them more raw offensive talent than any team in the league outside of the state of Oklahoma, and they’d still have enough depth to weather the storm during bench time. This is the proverbial all-in push as they say. It sucks losing their two pg’s in this trade, but seeing as how Ty Lawson isn’t even really running the point much anyway when he even gets playing time and Calderon is coming over, there is no reason to think this trade wouldn’t make them one of the best teams in the West. They might have to take a flyer on a free agent or d-league guy just to shore up their PG or SG spot but having Melo would be worth it.
#2 The Chicago Bulls