Pipe Dream Kyrie & Rocket Melo
by Patrick Diaz @p_diazNY
What can the Knicks offer in their pursuit of Kyrie Irving? Truth is not much. In what seems more and more like a pipe dream since the news broke, the Knicks won’t include Kristaps Porzingis in any deals. The Cavs don’t seem interested in any offer that doesn’t include Porzingis, they’re looking for a Carmelo type haul like the Denver Nuggets got from New York in 2011.
Another factor making a Kyrie to New York deal highly unlikely is that Carmelo Anthony has no interest in playing for the Cavs which means no trade. If Carmelo Anthony was going to the Cavaliers it’s likely it would’ve happened already, the influence of his pal LeBron James would’ve helped make it happen. Carmelo has his heart set on joining his other pal, Chris Paul, in Houston who can’t offer the Knicks suitable enough compensation. Carmelo not considering Cleveland is a little puzzling since he’s almost guaranteed a trip to the NBA Finals for the first time in his career alongside LeBron. It appears Carmelo seems to be concerned with the money
left on the remaining 2 years of his 5-year deal; he’s guaranteed 54 million dollars. In a possible scenario he can waive his no trade clause, play one year in Cleveland with LeBron and quite possibly reach the Finals after he can opt out and join Houston that summer but he would forfeit the remaining 27.9 million on his deal. Carmelo wants to get paid before anything else, plain and simple. He stated before careers shouldn’t be defined by championships. While his addition to the Rockets makes them formidable they are far from the favorite in an ultra-competitive western conference that includes the reigning champion Warriors. The Cavs are asking for an impact veteran, a blue chip player and multiple picks, talks are slow.
As the Knicks continue to weigh their options it’s worth noting that GM Scott Perry has added 5 new executives to the front office to be part of his regime since he was hired in July. The Knicks haven’t had an All-Star point guard start for them since Brooklyn’s very own Mark Jackson all the way back in 1989 before him, Michael “Sugar” Ray Richardson was selected to the All-Star team from 1980-82, you have to go even further back then to get to the iconic Walt “Clyde” Frazier who was an All-Star from 1970-76. Considering the Knicks have had 3 All-Star point guards in almost 50 years in a city that is known to be a hot bed for point guard talent, Kyrie to New York makes a lot of sense, by some miracle New York is one of his top destinations. It helps that Kyrie is a local kid himself growing up in New Jersey, his father being from the Bronx and his godfather is Rod Strickland a former Knicks point guard who is
also a Bronx Native. Super teams in NBA are going to be a trend for the foreseeable future. A Porzingis/Irving foundation points the Knicks in that direction and they should be able to attract top tier talent if there is a union. The Knicks may have to mortgage their future first round picks in whatever unlikely agreement may come for Kyrie. He is what teams hope future first round picks become, a perennial All-Star, a champion with 3 straight trips to the Finals and one of the elite talents in the NBA. It’s an impressive resume for someone yet to enter his prime at only 25 years of age.
Marc and Jay debate whether the Knicks should trade for Kyrie Irving, and for how much. What to do with the Melo situation, a look at the bench, and more.
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New York Knicks at Cleveland Cavaliers
February 23, 2017
Cavaliers 119, Knicks 104
“We’re back, and we’re the same as ever!” – The Knicks
So after a very New York Knicks trade deadline, where the Knicks made no moves to better the team right now, or better the team for the future, Carmelo Anthony led his team into the Quicken Loans Arena to battle LeBron James, Kyrie Irving, and the Cleveland Cavaliers. It went exactly as you would think.
The Knicks got squashed tonight, and the score doesn’t do this beat down justice. Continue reading
New York Knicks vs Cleveland Cavaliers
Game 22: December 7, 2016
Cavaliers 126, Knicks 94
Written by Eric Weinstein – @ericcweinsteinn
Well that was ugly.
On the second night of a back to back, The Knicks got their tails kicked by the Cleveland Cavaliers, 126-94. The Cavs steamrolled the Knicks right out of the gate, as they hit 23 three pointers to lead them to a 32 point win. The big three of Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and of course LeBron James, combined for 74 points, with Irving leading the way with 28 points. Brandon Jennings, who filled in for the injured Derrick Rose, led the Knicks with 16 points. Carmelo Anthony had only 8 points on 9 shot attempts, and Kristaps Porzingis finished with 12 points.
Takeaways from this game:
The Cavs are out of the Knicks league. Continue reading
Written by William Lee
Knicks at Cavaliers 10/30/14
The Knicks starts off the season against the two candidates most likely to face off in the Eastern Conference finals. One night after getting demolished by the Chicago Bulls in the home opener, New York played the spoiler role, ruining Cleveland’s home opener, and the return of the King’s homecoming.
The game started right where the Knicks left off last night, no defense to speak of…allowing a wide open layup under the rim by Kevin Love. Carmelo Anthony righted the ship, scoring the first six points for the Knicks to take an early lead. Anthony looked a lot more aggressive Thursday night, making quick decisions instead of being passive and forcing it to his teammates like he did the night before.
On this night it was Lebron James who looked to be passive, forcing passes to his teammates in his first game back with the Cavaliers since the infamous Decision. Lebron finished the first quarter with more turnovers (3) than points (2). Instead it was his new running mate Kevin Love that imposed his will early on, registering 12 points, 7 rebounds, and 3 assist in the opening period. We got treated to what will for sure be a consistent ESPN Top 10 Plays, anytime the Cavaliers take the court, when Cleveland went up 14-8 on a Kevin Love outlet pass to Lebron James
. Love finished the game with 19 points, 14 rebounds, and 4 assist.
Cleveland lead by as many as 11 points, although New York quickly got back into the game midway through the second quarter on an 8-0 run, cutting into the deficit 33-30. Lebron continued to struggle in the second quarter, having as many turnovers as points (4) by the end of the first half. New York really shared the basketball well in the first half, with ten players registering points on the box score.
Written by William Lee
New York spoiled Cleveland big night for Big Z, Zydrunas Ilgauskas’ retirement ceremony, winning 107-97 Saturday night.
New York devastated Cleveland inside early and often, scoring easily in the paint, finishing with 12 points in the paint in the first quarter. Amare Stoudemire continued his strong performance since inserted into the lineup, scoring 8 of his 17 points in the first quarter. Stoudemire got his second double-double all season with 17 points and 12 rebounds.
While Carmelo Anthony who normally starts off strong, was not his typical self, seen visibly suffering from a cold, keeping as much article of clothing on himself as possible, and draping his head in a towel during pre-game warm ups. Anthony would start off cold, missing his first six attempts from the field. With New York’s star player struggling, their defense kept them in the game, holding Cleveland scoreless for nearly the final three and a half minutes of the first quarter. The Knicks went on an 8-2 run during this stretch, before allowing Jarret Jack to score in the winding seconds in the period. New York led 23-19 after one period of play. Continue reading
Written by William Lee
“In 1970, Cleveland’s newspaper, The Plain Dealer, held a contest to name the city’s new basketball club. Contest winner Jerry Tomko wrote that the Cavaliers “represent a group of daring, fearless men, whose life’s pact was never surrender, no matter what the odds.” via NBA.com. It is probably safe to say Mr. Tomko would be disappointed in this season’s 16-29 Cleveland Cavaliers team. Probably even disappointed, in hearing new rumors that surfaced this week that team captain “Kyrie Irving has been telling people privately he wants out,” according to ESPN insider Chad Ford.
The Cavaliers sure looked like a group of people that surrendered, easily and with little resistance at that, in Thursday night’s 117-86 defeat at the hands of a suddenly hot New York Knicks team. New York was leading by double figures within four minutes of tip off. Cleveland would be down by as many as 29 points in the second quarter, and as many as 31 points in the second half. The Cavaliers showed little fight, barely even denting the Knicks’ lead, even though New York went cold in the second half of the second quarter, going without a field goal for over five minutes. New York led 60-36 at half time, even with the mini draught.
Carmelo Anthony erupted in the first quarter for 18 points, looked like he was on pace for another historical night. Any thoughts of another magical 62 point game performance were quickly squashed, as Mike Woodson wisely rested his superstar in an early blowout game to start the second quarter. Anthony finished the game with a very effective 29 points in 30 minutes of play. Continue reading
Written by William Lee
The Cleveland Cavaliers jumped out to an 18 point lead on the New York Knicks, and it looked like it was déjà vu for the Knickerbockers. It looked like it was going to be another no effort beat down that occurred in the Sunday matinee against the Atlantic Division leading Boston Celtics, where we saw the Knicks down by as many as 45 points, with the final score Celtics 114 Knicks 73. Instead the Knicks were able to fight and claw their way back into the game, at least in the first half…the second half would be a different story.
The Knicks lead early 5-4, and then Cavaliers went on a 14-0 run mid-way through the first quarter, leading to their largest lead in the first half of 18 points. With 4:22 left in the first quarter the Knicks went over the foul limit, the Knicks could not play defense without fouling in the first quarter, finishing the period with 10 personal fouls. Every starter except for Carmelo Anthony was in foul trouble by the end of the quarter with two fouls each. The Cavaliers attempted 16 free throws in the first quarter, converting 12 of them from the charity stripe. Not only did the Cavaliers get to the line at will, they also scored at will, finishing 52.9% from the field in the first quarter. Conversely the Knicks were held to 34.8%, the Knicks settled for way too many outside jumps, attempting ten three point shots just in the opening quarter. Although the Knicks would convert on consecutive threes during a 10-2 to close the gap to 10, with the Cavaliers leading 29-19. The Cavaliers lead 31-19 after the first quarter, behind the efforts of Uncle Drew aka Kyrie Irving, who had 9 points and 3 assist in the quarter. Continue reading
I was going to take a look around the league at the halfway mark. Then I figured since the trade deadline was so close I’d wait because that would change everything. Little did I know I could have written 95% of it and added a little blurb about JJ Redick afterwards since he was by far the biggest name that got moved. Anyway here’s how each team is looking with about 25 games left in the season.
Miami Heat – Miami was only a few games ahead of the pack for the first half of the season. Now it looks like they are going to run away with the #1 seed as everyone expected. It helps that LeBron had a ridiculous streak of 6 straight games of scoring over 30 points while shooting over 60%. That streak ended with him scoring 39 points but only shooting 58%. What a slacker. Ray Allen and Udonis Haslem haven’t even been playing well so this team has the potential to get even better down the stretch. They get outrebounded often but at 39-14 and 5 ½ games ahead of Indiana I don’t think that’s a huge concern.
Indiana Pacers – Paul George stepped up in Danny Granger’s absence. Granger came back a game ago to further improve the 2nd place Pacers. The only concern is their max contract center, Roy Hibbert, who is averaging 10 and 8. Their last four wins have come at an average of 27 points a game which is impressive since they are one of the lowest scoring teams in the NBA.
New York Knicks – It looks like the Knicks trolled their fans with fast, crisp ball movement, excellent 3-point shooting, unselfish play, lockdown defense and an 18-5 start. The last 33 games they are 17 and 16 since, can’t defend any guard in the league, play iso-ball and forgot how to shoot. Continue reading